Covid vaccinations
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Having our elected officials blaming the unvaccinated for spreading Covid too the vaccinated isn’t helping the situation either.
The amount of people who think unvaccinated people should be at the back of the bus is alarming, too say the least.
Like you stated earlier, Joe. The health care CEO’s feet should be held too the fire for the minimalist response they’ve done over the last 24 months during this situation. Rather than being proactive they’ve been more reactive. Rather than shore up their employees, they threaten them with termination for not bowing too their demands.
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I actually live a half mile across the coastal marsh from open water on the gulf coast, not 30 miles from where Katrina made landfall. I pay my insurance premiums on a yearly basis. If a hurricane takes my house that's my insurance companies problem, that's why I pay them. They'll rebuild the house and I'll keep paying my premiums. I write the check, they provide the service, that's how it works. It's my choice, my risk, and I'm properly insured.
On a side note nobody in the midwest is paying for hurricane damage on the gulf coast, most national insurers like state farm, nationwide etc won't even write policies here post Katrina.
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The notion that unvaccinated are spreading Covid is absurd. If a person is carrying and their symptoms are mild due to the vaccine, are they more likely to go to a crowded environment? Absolutely. If the vaccine works, wade into a sea of Covid and you should be fine. Pffft. Not this vaccine.
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The ignore data like this study recently out of Sweden that show the vaccinated are catching it more than the unvaccinated.
Link between COVID vaccination and reduced household transmission, Swedish study finds
People without immunity against COVID-19 were at considerably lower risk of infection and hospitalization as the number of family members with immunity from a previous infection or full vaccination increased, according to a new study from Sweden.
www.sciencedaily.com
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Link between COVID vaccination and reduced household transmission, Swedish study finds
People without immunity against COVID-19 were at considerably lower risk of infection and hospitalization as the number of family members with immunity from a previous infection or full vaccination increased, according to a new study from Sweden.www.sciencedaily.com
It's a numbers game. Lets say the vaccination is 10% effective at preventing infection. Then even at that low efficacy rate it would be a reasonable result to see reduced transmission to the unvaccinated and vaccinated alike. The data I posted above is also somewhat a numbers game, although still troubling. It shows that there has been a 160% uptick in vaccinated infections and a 100% uptick in unvaccinated infections. Both are per 100k people. The numbers game is in that there are also far more vaccinated than unvaccinated in Sweden. So of course it's going to spread faster in the vaccinated population. That is a Forrest for the trees argument however, the real issue is that they're catching and spreading it at all, much less at such an alarming rate. Remember, breakthrough infections are supposedly "rare"
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No, all of you irresponsible murderous imbeciles that won't take this experimental covid treatment are definitely too stupid to stay home if you are sick. These are simple concepts. Sheesh.
It seems to me like these conversations should be about immune vs. non-immune, not jabbed or not jabbed. Whether your immune response is natural or artificially induced isn't really the issue, is it? Real science has shown that natural immunity is as good as, if not better than, covid treatment, including all the boosters.
As ridiculous as some of this thread has gotten, comparing the Polio vaccine to Covid 19 treatment is hands down the most intellectually stunted notion I've read.
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Now you do know that there are people on here that’ll take this as a challenge? (Dave)
No, all of you irresponsible murderous imbeciles that won't take this experimental covid treatment are definitely too stupid to stay home if you are sick. These are simple concepts. Sheesh.
It seems to me like these conversations should be about immune vs. non-immune, not jabbed or not jabbed. Whether your immune response is natural or artificially induced isn't really the issue, is it? Real science has shown that natural immunity is as good as, if not better than, covid treatment, including all the boosters.
As ridiculous as some of this thread has gotten, comparing the Polio vaccine to Covid 19 treatment is hands down the most intellectually stunted notion I've read.
COVID Natural Immunity: What You Need to Know
Even if you’ve already had COVID-19, getting a coronavirus vaccine is recommended. These are the things you need to know about COVID natural immunity.
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Unless of course you opt for the Johnson and Johnson jab. Then you face death from heart failure at 25. Lol.COVID Natural Immunity: What You Need to Know
Even if you’ve already had COVID-19, getting a coronavirus vaccine is recommended. These are the things you need to know about COVID natural immunity.www.hopkinsmedicine.org
CDC narrows use of J&J vaccine due to concerns about rare blood clots
The agency implemented experts' advice because of a rare and sometimes fatal blood-clotting problem known as TTS. More than 16 million people in the U.S. have received a shot of the J&J vaccine.
www.npr.org
that was a nice "feel good" piece, but not very convincing one way or the other. I think everyone who wants to get the covid shots, however many there might be, should do so. Your life, your choice I also think it's nobody's business whether I get it or not.COVID Natural Immunity: What You Need to Know
Even if you’ve already had COVID-19, getting a coronavirus vaccine is recommended. These are the things you need to know about COVID natural immunity.
Although I'm not going to bother, I'm sure I could dig up a study or two or ten that claims the complete opposite. The real problem isn't Covid anymore.
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No, all of you irresponsible murderous imbeciles that won't take this experimental covid treatment are definitely too stupid to stay home if you are sick. These are simple concepts. Sheesh.
It seems to me like these conversations should be about immune vs. non-immune, not jabbed or not jabbed. Whether your immune response is natural or artificially induced isn't really the issue, is it? Real science has shown that natural immunity is as good as, if not better than, covid treatment, including all the boosters.
As ridiculous as some of this thread has gotten, comparing the Polio vaccine to Covid 19 treatment is hands down the most intellectually stunted notion I've read.
Be careful now. The University of California just fired their head of medical ethics for refusing the jab and saying they need to take into consideration natural immunity. I'll say that again. A prominant University fired their long tenured Head Of Medical Ethics.
Here is what he had to say in his own words.
From Hero to Fired: Dr. Aaron Kheriaty and the University of California Irvine | National Review
You don’t have to have a strong position on vaccines to be disturbed by what’s happened to Dr. Aaron Kheriaty.
www.nationalreview.com
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My take is not much to consider. I have moved on, really. Yes, sometimes there is some interesting stuff to read on the subject. Yes, I do hope this virus goes away sooner rather than later, but it is going to be here for the rest of our days. I'm not holding my breath for a real immunization for this. Coronaviruses have been plaguing humanity literally forever. We have learned to live with them all, and we will eventually learn to live with this one, too. Until then, I'm not going to stop living my life because some pinheaded government bureaucrat, big pharma, the corporate news media, academia, my neighbor, or even my own Mother says I should fall in line. Living a life with purpose is no more dangerous or difficult today than it has ever been for a free thinker.
Be careful now. The University of California just fired their head of medical ethics for refusing the jab and saying they need to take into consideration natural immunity. I'll say that again. A prominant University fired their long tenured Head Of Medical Ethics.
Here is what he had to say in his own words.
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From Hero to Fired: Dr. Aaron Kheriaty and the University of California Irvine | National Review
You don’t have to have a strong position on vaccines to be disturbed by what’s happened to Dr. Aaron Kheriaty.
Dang crazy shit - sound like pressure from big $$$ - to dump him