Numbers.. Ohio's 2011-12 White-tailed Deer Season -8%

[Beentown]

Coyotes are officially taking the blame. Not saying they are not a contributing factor though.

On the news, papers and ODNR is having meetings about them with locales.

 

[brock ratcliff]

Well, glad we gave them an excuse to pull back the reins!

 

[brock ratcliff]

When and where are these meetings?

 

[Beentown]

Delaware and Marion that I have heard so far. It was also on Fox 28 tonight.

 

[brock ratcliff]

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[xbowguy]

I visited my taxidermist last night and his thought on the current status of our deer herd: "Horrible..." He also let me in on some candid talk from our GW, talk that makes me change my opinion of him, albeit only slightly. Seems not all the GWs are on board with the Telecheck and there is some finger pointing at the big boys in Columbus who only seem concerned about $. I found that information to be very enlightening...

:smiley_clap: Here's TOO Every GW who seen the Telecheck Problems......WONDERFUL IDEA for us Legal Sportsmen. But way TOO large of an open door for the Poachers and Party Hunters......I am willing to do my part and take the extra time, gas and effort to tag a deer at a check station.

 

[Jackalope]

Coyotes are officially taking the blame. Not saying they are not a contributing factor though.

On the news, papers and ODNR is having meetings about them with locales.

Well you didn't expect bad management to take the blame did you. Lol... Thanks for the heads up. Looks like we'll look deeper into fawn mortality rates due to predation. Something that I believe huntn2 has already done and shown to be a huge detriment. So I'm not saying the dnr is sniffing around the wrong tree. But there is also other contributing factors that need to be looked at all inclusive.. But hey we will see what shakes out as far as regulation changes go.

 

[bowhunter1023]

I was told this week about how the WVDNR (or maybe just someone who works for the WVDNR) is helping people kill coyotes using cyanide "bombs". According to this farmer, he called the WVDNR about his problem and somehow ended up getting help via these bombs. From what I understand, you bury them like you would a bait hole set and when the yotes try to dig them out, they "explode" and the cyanide gas kills them. Sounds a little fishy to me, but it was only second hand information and I'm sure my dad didn't embellish what he was told...

 

[Jackalope]

I was told this week about how the WVDNR (or maybe just someone who works for the WVDNR) is helping people kill coyotes using cyanide "bombs". According to this farmer, he called the WVDNR about his problem and somehow ended up getting help via these bombs. From what I understand, you bury them like you would a bait hole set and when the yotes try to dig them out, they "explode" and the cyanide gas kills them. Sounds a little fishy to me, but it was only second hand information and I'm sure my dad didn't embellish what he was told...

A Looonnnnnggg time ago this method was used in a similar method to how that shotgun trap someone here had. When they dig it sprays them in the face. I'm pretty sure it's not in use anymore though.

 

[Gern186]

Sounds a little fishy to me Jesse. Think of the ramifications if another animal dug one of those up and was killed accidentally. With all the sue happy people today, I would be surprised if the WVDNR was advocating cyanide bombs.

 

[bowhunter1023]

Sounds a little fishy to me Jesse. Think of the ramifications if another animal dug one of those up and was killed accidentally. With all the sue happy people today, I would be surprised if the WVDNR was advocating cyanide bombs.

That's why I am thinking it was an employee of the WVDNR acting on his own accord and not on behalf of the DNR. The farmer that was telling my dad about this owns 500 and some odd acres, so he has a decent amount of ground to try and pull this off. He also lost several calves over the past few months, so I'm betting he'd be up for whatever; even if it meant a little fall out from the neighbors. I have no way of telling if it is true, but it was definitely intriguing...

 

[Huckleberry Finn]

I was told this week about how the WVDNR (or maybe just someone who works for the WVDNR) is helping people kill coyotes using cyanide "bombs". According to this farmer, he called the WVDNR about his problem and somehow ended up getting help via these bombs. From what I understand, you bury them like you would a bait hole set and when the yotes try to dig them out, they "explode" and the cyanide gas kills them. Sounds a little fishy to me, but it was only second hand information and I'm sure my dad didn't embellish what he was told...

We've bombed groundhog holes with some nasty crap, arousal with some god-awful chemicals before...sounds fishy but I wouldn't put it past someone.

 

[brock ratcliff]

Cyanide"bombs" have been used for coyote control for years. Still is in TX I think. The entire area must be labeled as anything that is sprayed is killed ... including people. It is not a system I would ever want to see in use around here!

 

[Jackalope]

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M-44 Sodium Cyanide Injector.

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/pubs/fsheet_faq_notice/fs_wsm44.html

 

[brock ratcliff]

Thats it. I'd sure hate to stumble into that stuff while mushroom hunting, running dogs, scouting deer, riding quads, or anything else. That stuff scares me as I know how my kids wonder around without paying attention to anything...bad stuff.

 

[Jackalope]

Thats it. I'd sure hate to stumble into that stuff while mushroom hunting, running dogs, scouting deer, riding quads, or anything else. That stuff scares me as I know how my kids wonder around without paying attention to anything...bad stuff.

They said that USDA regulations require signs to be place on any trail leading into the aree and within 25 feet of each device. It's a powder that gets puffed into the animals mouth when they pull on it.. The powder reacts with moisture and produces cyanide gas. They inhale this as it's in their mouth and die. Interesting.

 

[Milo]

i will take a few cases of that:smiley_chinrub:

 

[brock ratcliff]

Remember last year when you and I discussed the yote issue over on Sean's place? Yeah, I looked into this stuff....I'm still creeped out by it. Fly bait is a better option IMO as a kid is not likely to eat rotting meat. And again, I don't know everything about them, but I'd hate to rely on warning signs as they do.

 

[Gern186]

I will just stick with shooting them. That's a little over the top for me.

 

[Huckleberry Finn]

Got the survey from HonkaTonk. Just did it.