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you would run out of property to coyote hunt here in about 5 minutes...let alone lack of safe directions to shoot.
you would run out of property to coyote hunt here in about 5 minutes...let alone lack of safe directions to shoot.
Yes Zach, I may have added a few pounds to the yote but it is still bigger then mounties little 10# dog comparison lol. I know that male has to go 40-45 lbs. and that still is not a small dog but the female may only go 25-30lbs. They are not starving at all I will tell you that much. Dante shot 3 last year and I know the bitch still had 3 with her later that day making a total of 6 she had in that den. Now I know there is at least 3-4 yote out of that group still running the property and another group that run the other side of the property. Sooner or later I will get the calling and shooting and trapping yote down and some dogs will die. Just a matter of me learning the curve.
Here is a daytime pic of the bitch.
Here is a daytime pic of the bitch.
The only thing though about that 300 yard shot was I had a witness and he is a member on TOO!!!...lol... And now I have a new toy that'll go 160 mph so I can run em over!!!... Only if we get some snow...lol
Agreed. I have killed two. Hit one good and it ran onto a property I do not have permission on. I never pursued that one. One of the guys I hunt with tagged one that didn't die (blew it's foot off) and killed another one we tossed in the ditch.
In regards to Mountaineer. . . I shouldn't waste my breath, but they are no jack russell. They are very elusive. We have limited shooting windows in my areas to shoot at them and call them in. I would guess a jack russell at 10-18lbs. That would be a pup in the late summer if I had to guess. Probably most of the pups are (total guess here) 18-25lbs by winter. The other thing is getting ahold of their back legs. Not going to happen unless they are in a trap, snare, or already dead. I have seen some of these mangy dogs take several 223 rounds and keep on trucking. Might roll them once or twice, but they keep going. They are tough animals.
I forgot to add, found three carcasses while shed hunting today. All three within 30yds of each other. In an overgrown CRP type area with many scrub trees which is not tillable ground. It is along a ditch, standing corn to the south, big woods to the north. The coyotes are heavy in this area.
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Mountaineer
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Hicks,
My point is..Predators go after the young, the sick and the old. What they do only makes a prey species stronger. Humans do just the opposite..they take out the strongest and healthiest deer.
We are the problem..not the coyotes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
My point is..Predators go after the young, the sick and the old. What they do only makes a prey species stronger. Humans do just the opposite..they take out the strongest and healthiest deer.
We are the problem..not the coyotes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
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Coyotes are opportunistic not selective. Meaning they will cash in in an opportunity if they come across a weak, injured, or sick animal. That is not saying however they will starve if one is not found. They are fully capable of killing a large healthy deer when hunting together. However guys a coyotes diet consists primarily of mice, other rodents, and in the spring fawns. In the harsh of winter they can and will kill deer. Btw get out there and hunt. There in full rut. Between the Indiana border and Indianapolis this weekend i counted 9 road killed coyotes. Most I've ever seen along a road.
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thats on the agenda but with more people comes more pets...just had this discussion with my neighbors and their wandering labs....not really wanting to kill my neighbors pets.
RC..
Im 210lbs...One kick to the face from my boot would take care of em. heheh
That's the dumbest thing I've heard you say in a long time. Ill give you a call for the next one I trap and your more than welcome to kick him in the face. But afterwards your not allowed to leave his catch circle. OK? You obviously don't know much if you are comparing a Coyote to a Jack Russel.
Mountaineer
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Mountaineer
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Ive heard upwards to 6 or so packs howling at one time where i hunt deer. I remeber the evening. It was November 6thof last year..we were all around the campfire and all of a sudden one grouped started and then all hell broke loose. Turned out there were six diffeent groups all around us howling like wolves.
Last weekend..I saw 2 trmendous flocks of turkeys..maybe upwards to 70 or 80 birds total in that same area where i heard those 6 packs of coyotes....Coyotes dont like turkeys?
Like i said before..Ultimately the resposibility is with us ..the hunter...If the deer herd becomes low or unsustainable..We need to look in the mirror and then question the Managing agency.
We are the problem..Not the coyotes.
Last weekend..I saw 2 trmendous flocks of turkeys..maybe upwards to 70 or 80 birds total in that same area where i heard those 6 packs of coyotes....Coyotes dont like turkeys?
Like i said before..Ultimately the resposibility is with us ..the hunter...If the deer herd becomes low or unsustainable..We need to look in the mirror and then question the Managing agency.
We are the problem..Not the coyotes.
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Wrong... It is not out job to manage shit. It is our job to buy a licenses and limited number of tags that the state has mandated through their management efforts. Hunters as a whole are incapable of managing a population on a large scale.. This is why every state in the union had a Division of wildlife. Don't believe me... Remove all deer hunting regulations.. No closed season, legalize rifles, and no bag limit.. Do you think the population will remain flat? Or do you think we will be the first state in the union without deer? We have a DNR for a reason... When they aren't doing their job don;t point the finger at the uninformed people who rely on them to do the right thing.
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Really??
If you care about the deer and the sport you are involved in it is every hunters resposibility To educate him or herself.
The DNR is pulled in every direction. Directions that may not be in the deer best intrest. I know this and all hunters should be aware of this.
Like I said..we are the problem but yet we are the solution as well. Too blame the coyote for "The Problem" is ridiculous.
If you care about the deer and the sport you are involved in it is every hunters resposibility To educate him or herself.
The DNR is pulled in every direction. Directions that may not be in the deer best intrest. I know this and all hunters should be aware of this.
Like I said..we are the problem but yet we are the solution as well. Too blame the coyote for "The Problem" is ridiculous.
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Perhaps not the only problem, but a contributing factor for sure!
My BECs were live-loaded to the internet last year. Joe, Jesse, and Milo could see them anytime they wanted to look. Those cameras showed more yotes than deer at times. Showed coyotes actively pursuing deer too. The first camera I put out last year was on a lil burr oak. In the two weeks it was dropping, three deer were chased off in front of the camera with a coyote hot on it's heels. Additionally, those cameras showed an absolute lack of fawns. I had two adult does on the farm all the time...there was one fawn between the two. What happened to the rest of the fawns? This has been the norm over the last several years. Doe family groups no longer have two fawns per doe as they did in years past. I'm sure they still produce them, they are just eaten by the time I am out and about to see them (September).
My BECs were live-loaded to the internet last year. Joe, Jesse, and Milo could see them anytime they wanted to look. Those cameras showed more yotes than deer at times. Showed coyotes actively pursuing deer too. The first camera I put out last year was on a lil burr oak. In the two weeks it was dropping, three deer were chased off in front of the camera with a coyote hot on it's heels. Additionally, those cameras showed an absolute lack of fawns. I had two adult does on the farm all the time...there was one fawn between the two. What happened to the rest of the fawns? This has been the norm over the last several years. Doe family groups no longer have two fawns per doe as they did in years past. I'm sure they still produce them, they are just eaten by the time I am out and about to see them (September).
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Brock..
Then..if you think there's a problem..go get em. I dont understand all this complaining and whining. Just go get the job done. Thats what i do..Look what i have against me...Im an NonResident..Strike #1..I live 5 hours from where i hunt Strike #2...I cant scout much Strike #3..I dont have friends in Ohio that can give me leads on the best locations to hunt.. Strike #4...And I hunt publicland..Strike #5..but yet i get it done.
Everyone needs to quit bitching and complaining and direct all their energy into one thing. And thats trying to acheive personal goals.
Then..if you think there's a problem..go get em. I dont understand all this complaining and whining. Just go get the job done. Thats what i do..Look what i have against me...Im an NonResident..Strike #1..I live 5 hours from where i hunt Strike #2...I cant scout much Strike #3..I dont have friends in Ohio that can give me leads on the best locations to hunt.. Strike #4...And I hunt publicland..Strike #5..but yet i get it done.
Everyone needs to quit bitching and complaining and direct all their energy into one thing. And thats trying to acheive personal goals.
Since you seem to know everything, what is the fawn mortality rate in areas with high coyote populations compared to low coyote populations??